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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-16679</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While re-reading this chapter again this afternoon, I was struck by Bellatrix’s line, “The Dark Lord is… I believe… mistaken.”  It’s quite amazing really that Bellatrix, who otherwise follows Voldemort with crazed devotion, is actually able to doubt the Dark Lord’s judgement.  And, even though her suspicions about Snape seem mostly fuelled by contempt &amp; jealousy, she is completely correct nonetheless.  Who would have thought it would be Bellatrix that would have Snape figured out, and not Harry?

@ Josiah &amp; Grace Has Victory – That passage about Snape passing information on the Order bothered me too (although it doesn’t mention anything about Amelia Bones):  “The Dark Lord is satisfied with the information I have passed him on the Order.  It led, as perhaps you have guessed, to the recent capture and murder of Emmeline Vance, and it certainly helped dispose of Sirius Black…” I think Grace Has Victory is right that Snape’s assertion doesn’t necessarily need to be true.  I can’t think of what information Snape would have given Voldemort about Sirius that he didn’t already have from other sources.  We learned in OoTP that it was Kreacher who told Narcissa about the relationship between Harry was Sirius, and that this instigated Voldemort’s plan to lure Harry to the Department of Mysteries.  I’m not saying that Snape is innocent here, but it’s possible that he’s reframing his contributions to Bella in light of what’s happened.

Also, just want to say that I love Heather Campbell’s depiction of Spinner’s End!  Eerie!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While re-reading this chapter again this afternoon, I was struck by Bellatrix’s line, “The Dark Lord is… I believe… mistaken.”  It’s quite amazing really that Bellatrix, who otherwise follows Voldemort with crazed devotion, is actually able to doubt the Dark Lord’s judgement.  And, even though her suspicions about Snape seem mostly fuelled by contempt &amp; jealousy, she is completely correct nonetheless.  Who would have thought it would be Bellatrix that would have Snape figured out, and not Harry?</p>
<p>@ Josiah &amp; Grace Has Victory – That passage about Snape passing information on the Order bothered me too (although it doesn’t mention anything about Amelia Bones):  “The Dark Lord is satisfied with the information I have passed him on the Order.  It led, as perhaps you have guessed, to the recent capture and murder of Emmeline Vance, and it certainly helped dispose of Sirius Black…” I think Grace Has Victory is right that Snape’s assertion doesn’t necessarily need to be true.  I can’t think of what information Snape would have given Voldemort about Sirius that he didn’t already have from other sources.  We learned in OoTP that it was Kreacher who told Narcissa about the relationship between Harry was Sirius, and that this instigated Voldemort’s plan to lure Harry to the Department of Mysteries.  I’m not saying that Snape is innocent here, but it’s possible that he’s reframing his contributions to Bella in light of what’s happened.</p>
<p>Also, just want to say that I love Heather Campbell’s depiction of Spinner’s End!  Eerie!</p>
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		<title>By: Des Grealis</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-12788</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Des Grealis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right not sure if these points have already been raised but two things about this chapter have recently struck me.  Number one... And i can&#039;t believe i never noticed it before but Bellatrix when being poked by snape almost reveals the horcrux she is looking after for voldemort.  She says something like &quot;in the past he has trusted me with his most precious&quot;.

Also how difficult must it have been to have Wormtail; the person who really betrayed Lily, living with him.  Granted he is fairly horrible to him but were it me i&#039;d be ready to kill him at a moments notice.  Considering how he treated sirius when he thought sirius was the one who betrayed her. Anyway i&#039;m rambling but it&#039;s interesting to read the scene bearing this character history in mind.

Great site by the way.  Was directed here by the lexicon.
Des]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right not sure if these points have already been raised but two things about this chapter have recently struck me.  Number one&#8230; And i can&#8217;t believe i never noticed it before but Bellatrix when being poked by snape almost reveals the horcrux she is looking after for voldemort.  She says something like &#8220;in the past he has trusted me with his most precious&#8221;.</p>
<p>Also how difficult must it have been to have Wormtail; the person who really betrayed Lily, living with him.  Granted he is fairly horrible to him but were it me i&#8217;d be ready to kill him at a moments notice.  Considering how he treated sirius when he thought sirius was the one who betrayed her. Anyway i&#8217;m rambling but it&#8217;s interesting to read the scene bearing this character history in mind.</p>
<p>Great site by the way.  Was directed here by the lexicon.<br />
Des</p>
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		<title>By: Lesharo</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-11681</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, yes, we know what that power is now, but they didn&#039;t at the time (only finding out when Voldemort himself told them in the graveyard after his resurrection).  

Even those who would have known about the part of the prophecy Voldemort heard would only know that Harry was &quot;the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord&quot;.  According to Dumbledore, the eavesdropper only heard up to the description of the parents (&quot;He heard only the first part, the part foretelling the birth of a boy in July to parents who had thrice defied Voldemort&quot;-OoTP, Ch. 37).  The &quot;mark him as his equal&quot; and &quot;power the Dark Lord knows not&quot; bits come after that.

So, they would only know that this boy, this baby, managed to defeat their Lord and Master, not how or why.  Naturally, none of the good wizards had managed to do it, so it must be something dark as, to them at least, dark magic is more powerful.  

Also, just to clarify, it&#039;s not my assertion, per se, but I can understand where they were coming from in thinking it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, we know what that power is now, but they didn&#8217;t at the time (only finding out when Voldemort himself told them in the graveyard after his resurrection).  </p>
<p>Even those who would have known about the part of the prophecy Voldemort heard would only know that Harry was &#8220;the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord&#8221;.  According to Dumbledore, the eavesdropper only heard up to the description of the parents (&#8220;He heard only the first part, the part foretelling the birth of a boy in July to parents who had thrice defied Voldemort&#8221;-OoTP, Ch. 37).  The &#8220;mark him as his equal&#8221; and &#8220;power the Dark Lord knows not&#8221; bits come after that.</p>
<p>So, they would only know that this boy, this baby, managed to defeat their Lord and Master, not how or why.  Naturally, none of the good wizards had managed to do it, so it must be something dark as, to them at least, dark magic is more powerful.  </p>
<p>Also, just to clarify, it&#8217;s not my assertion, per se, but I can understand where they were coming from in thinking it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kearns</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-11632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Kearns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lesharo, I disagree with your assertion that Harry could have been a greater dark wizard than Voldemort. I believe the &quot;power the Dark Lord knows not&quot; IS the power of goodness and love. That&#039;s the whole point, isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lesharo, I disagree with your assertion that Harry could have been a greater dark wizard than Voldemort. I believe the &#8220;power the Dark Lord knows not&#8221; IS the power of goodness and love. That&#8217;s the whole point, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lesharo</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-11625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesharo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@roslinstars, it&#039;s a case of &quot;might makes right until greater might comes along&quot;.  Obviously (and according to prophecy) Potter possessed &quot;power the Dark Lord knows not&quot; or else the Dark Lord wouldn&#039;t have been defeated.  If the boy was powerful and could be molded to the darkness, he could have been a greater dark wizard than the Dark Lord himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@roslinstars, it&#8217;s a case of &#8220;might makes right until greater might comes along&#8221;.  Obviously (and according to prophecy) Potter possessed &#8220;power the Dark Lord knows not&#8221; or else the Dark Lord wouldn&#8217;t have been defeated.  If the boy was powerful and could be molded to the darkness, he could have been a greater dark wizard than the Dark Lord himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace has Victory</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-10961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace has Victory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Josiah&lt;/b&gt;, I don&#039;t know that it &lt;i&gt;necessarily&lt;/i&gt; has to be true. It would be almost impossible for Bellatrix to discover later that Voldemort had managed to kill Emmeline and Madam Bones without any information from Snape.

However, I think it probably &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; true. I think that Snape, who is not a nice person, deliberately sacrificed these two innocent people in order to increase his credibility with Voldemort. Perhaps he had a personal score to settle with them. Or perhaps he simply decided that, if allies &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; to be sacrificed, these two were expendable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Josiah</b>, I don&#8217;t know that it <i>necessarily</i> has to be true. It would be almost impossible for Bellatrix to discover later that Voldemort had managed to kill Emmeline and Madam Bones without any information from Snape.</p>
<p>However, I think it probably <i>is</i> true. I think that Snape, who is not a nice person, deliberately sacrificed these two innocent people in order to increase his credibility with Voldemort. Perhaps he had a personal score to settle with them. Or perhaps he simply decided that, if allies <i>had</i> to be sacrificed, these two were expendable.</p>
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		<title>By: Josiah</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-10846</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What kind of irks me is the necessity of Snape being an informant for Voldemort as well as Dumbledore. He said that some of the information that he passed on to Voldemort helped him murder Emmeline Vance and Amelia Bones. Is that true? Did Dumbledore sanction that? And did the victims have foreknowledge to their doom? That always bothers me because however necessary it is for Voldemort to believe Snape, he still condemned two people to die because of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of irks me is the necessity of Snape being an informant for Voldemort as well as Dumbledore. He said that some of the information that he passed on to Voldemort helped him murder Emmeline Vance and Amelia Bones. Is that true? Did Dumbledore sanction that? And did the victims have foreknowledge to their doom? That always bothers me because however necessary it is for Voldemort to believe Snape, he still condemned two people to die because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: roslinstars</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-8242</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roslinstars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 05:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And also, I think it&#039;s interesting that Snape says, &quot;[Harry] has fought his way out of a number of tight corners by a simple combination of sheer luck and more talented friends.&quot;

Though the Lestranges might not realize it, he is acknowledging Hermione&#039;s astounding ability, revealing to us that he is not truly so prejudiced towards Muggle-borns, and warning us not to believe that he is truly loyal to the Dark Lord and not Dumbledore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And also, I think it&#8217;s interesting that Snape says, &#8220;[Harry] has fought his way out of a number of tight corners by a simple combination of sheer luck and more talented friends.&#8221;</p>
<p>Though the Lestranges might not realize it, he is acknowledging Hermione&#8217;s astounding ability, revealing to us that he is not truly so prejudiced towards Muggle-borns, and warning us not to believe that he is truly loyal to the Dark Lord and not Dumbledore.</p>
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		<title>By: roslinstars</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-8241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roslinstars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 05:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to take issue with this quote from this chapter:
Snape: &quot;...when Potter first arrived at Hogwarts there were still many stories circulating about him, rumours that he himself was a great Dark wizard, which was how he had survived the Dark Lord&#039;s attack. Indeed, many of the Dark Lord&#039;s old followers thought Potter might be a standard about which we could all rally once more.&quot;

I mean, what a ridiculous ridiculous statement. How could anyone believe that Harry survived Voldemort&#039;s attack because he was a &quot;great Dark wizard&quot;? He was a year old! And why on Earth would Death Eaters want to rally around the boy who had undone their master. It just really doesn&#039;t make any sense.

On a different note, I think it&#039;s funny to imagine the Minister for Magic sitting in his office, talking to his own portrait of the frog-like man, receiving reports about how the Prime Minister&#039;s amusing attempts to prise the other portrait from his wall. I can just imagine Fudge shaking his head and smiling ruefully at those ridiculous Muggles, forever trying to deny the existence of witches and wizards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to take issue with this quote from this chapter:<br />
Snape: &#8220;&#8230;when Potter first arrived at Hogwarts there were still many stories circulating about him, rumours that he himself was a great Dark wizard, which was how he had survived the Dark Lord&#8217;s attack. Indeed, many of the Dark Lord&#8217;s old followers thought Potter might be a standard about which we could all rally once more.&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean, what a ridiculous ridiculous statement. How could anyone believe that Harry survived Voldemort&#8217;s attack because he was a &#8220;great Dark wizard&#8221;? He was a year old! And why on Earth would Death Eaters want to rally around the boy who had undone their master. It just really doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</p>
<p>On a different note, I think it&#8217;s funny to imagine the Minister for Magic sitting in his office, talking to his own portrait of the frog-like man, receiving reports about how the Prime Minister&#8217;s amusing attempts to prise the other portrait from his wall. I can just imagine Fudge shaking his head and smiling ruefully at those ridiculous Muggles, forever trying to deny the existence of witches and wizards.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna1</title>
		<link>http://hpcompanion.com/hbp/hbp2/#comment-5100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Always adds another layer, Rtozier. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always adds another layer, Rtozier. :)</p>
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